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Post by Mike Woodson on May 15, 2010 22:37:05 GMT
ATL send:
(81) Mike Bibby - $6,217,617 - $5,564,767 - $6,217,617
(76) Marvin Williams - $7,500,000 - $6,712,500 - $7,500,000 - $8,287,500 - $7,500,000
(72) Zaza Pachulia - $4,750,000 - $4,251,250 - $4,750,000 - $5,248,750
ATL 2011 1st round
ATL 2012 2nd round
Incoming Salary: $20,501,095
Outgoing Salary: $18,467,617
CLE send:
(83) Antawn Jamison - $11,641,095 - $13,358,905 - $15,076,715
(77) Maurice Williams - $8,860,000 - $9,300,000 - $8,500,000 - $8,500,000
Incoming Salary: $18,467,617
Outgoing Salary: $20,501,095
I accept this trade
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Post by wtfproductionsftw on May 15, 2010 22:43:34 GMT
I accept this trade it is, in my opinion, a good trade for both teams.
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Post by wtfproductionsftw on May 16, 2010 1:00:03 GMT
k then might as well take down the trade idea...
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Post by Mike Woodson on May 16, 2010 1:48:36 GMT
Updated I add my 2 picks.....
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Post by wtfproductionsftw on May 16, 2010 1:53:59 GMT
I accept. I think it was already, I won't argue though, I still accept, I'll leave it at that.
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Post by Josh Barber on May 16, 2010 2:02:12 GMT
Can I hear some reasoning from Bowman as to why he wants to do this?
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Post by wtfproductionsftw on May 16, 2010 2:22:40 GMT
Not only would I be getting ATL 1st and 2nd Round 2011 Draft Picks but I will also be getting someone whose FT % is 0.861 09-10 and 0.806 in his career. I will also be losing Antwan's Salary, even though I will have about $2 mil. more I will be getting an extra player. Jamison is 11 years, so is Bibby, Mo Williams is 6 so is Pachulia, but Marv. Williams is only at 4 years. So I will be gaining a younger superstar and getting pretty much the same if I didn't trade with the exception of losing Jamison being the only BIG downside to me. The two draft picks could help especially if Bron Bron leaves the Cavs.
Sorry if that didn't answer your question I don't know how to explain most of the stuff in my mind. : )
If given the opportunity to speak I could have explained my reasoning better...
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Post by Phil Jackson on May 16, 2010 4:23:55 GMT
I think this trade is kind of fair, maybe enough to get passed if context is ignored, but it isnt and with context this trade is very unrealistic. Cleveland would never do this trade. Why would they want Zaza when they already have Big Z and Shaq? Why would they want Bibby who is declining and maybe already over the hill when they want to contend for years to come? Why would they want Marvin when they already have Antawn? This kind of falls into the grey area of how the trade committee is supposed to judge trades but in my opnion with all things considered I will have to decline.
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Post by Alvin Hendrix on May 16, 2010 6:37:53 GMT
The 3,4 & 5 positions at Cleveland are already stacked. I don't see the point in adding guys like Marvin Williams (who plays mainly SF, to compete for playing time with LeBron) and even less so for Pachulia to compete for playtime with Shaq, Big Z, Varejao. Cleveland is a contending team. Losing IRL with ths lineup does not mean losing in this league.
Consider me cynical towards Mike Woodson everytime he does a trade (well that's besides the point since this trade is inadequate anyway)
Declined & Declined.
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Post by Mike Woodson on May 16, 2010 8:01:30 GMT
Ok...This trade is rejected.....
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Post by wtfproductionsftw on May 16, 2010 14:13:08 GMT
Well... Shaq will probably retire and Big Z is gonna be a free agent so I need a new big man, whose gonna be a center after that, Varajao's gone...
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Post by Ian Noble on May 16, 2010 14:32:53 GMT
I echo Alvin Hendrix's sentiments, except I'm more concerned with Mr Bowman's reasoning. I reject.
Bobbie Knight - reject
Ian Noble - reject
Alvin Hendrix - reject
Phil Jackson - reject
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